“What is the difference between God and man? In Hosea, God said He’d stop loving and no longer forgive. This seems contradictory to me” asked Toby to a friend.
“That’s a good question, Tobe. I almost forgot God said that through Hosea to Israel. The best I know is that God is God. There is no sin in Him, even when He “stops loving and forgiving”. But, man cannot stop loving without sinning. And I’ve never seen a man refuse to forgive without becoming bitter or resentful. It’s hard to understand I ‘spose. But the thing is, there are things we just don’t “get”, aren’t meant to “get” that God does and doesn’t do. He often seems to give breaks and leniency to some, and as far as I can see – it does them no good. Yet I’ve seen Him press down on some that I see as needing some kind of break, some of that leniency I see Him give another, yet He seems to be unrelenting. It makes no sense to me. He often tells me “It’s not meant to make sense to you.” Yet the Truth is, God can do or not do anything without a shred of sin or its effects – man can not. God is God, man is His creation. I’m not sure God truly stopped loving as we think of loving, or stopped forgiving as we think of forgiving Israel. Truly though I just don’t know. If He wanted me to know, I would. And so would you. God is God and can not sin, ever. Man is man and can not do anything good without Him – ever. So we are then called to just trust, and not always understand. I admit it’s really difficult to do. Yet when I do, I have peace.” The friend looked up at a flock of geese honking as they flew over head; he smiled.
Toby watched his friend, saw the words his friend speak came from some deep place of serenity Toby had never really experienced. All his life he asked questions and expected answers, answers that made sense to him. If they didn’t or no answer was forth coming he felt his spirit pout and would brood. He wanted what his friend had but had no idea where to begin. He had been reading the book Hosea as a result of a series his church was doing on God’s love verses man’s love. It kept poking at the question center of his mind.
Could I love someone who would not love me back? Could I continue to hold and cherish a woman if she always went to other lovers?
God’s love seemed impossible. But then there were those seeming contradictions. As he mentioned earlier about God saying he would cease to love and forgive. It confused him. Yet the words his friend spoke were true. Man can’t stop loving without sinning, and if God is all He says He is perhaps He could. Perhaps the “ceasing of love” mentioned in Hosea was different than what he could understand. Another passage came to mind. From the 1st chapter.
“So what about where God told Hosea to tell them that they were no longer His people and He was no longer their God? But then not long after that He then says He’d no longer consider then ‘not His people’ but change the name to His people and change again their name from ‘not loved’ to loved. Does God always contradict Himself?” Asked Toby.
The friend was quiet for a length of minutes that made Toby wonder if he’d heard him. Yet the way he looked at him in stillness left little doubt he’d been heard.
“Toby, the same thing seems to apply here. Only God can disown without abandoning. Only God can withdraw His person, His character without withdrawing His presence. It’s so hard to understand to us because we are incapable of disowning without sinning a.k.a. ceasing to love. We cannot withdraw our person without cutting someone off from our presence. Read Romans 12, it talks about how God corrects or disciplines those He loves. Then go to Isaiah chapter 53, in verse 5 it says “the disciplining that makes us whole fell on Him” meaning Jesus. Whenever you read about God passing judgement and causing things to happen that seem “unloving and rejecting” to our mind to His people we must keep this in mind. Love is discipline. And only God can discipline perfectly, fairly and lovingly. Hosea is a love story of God’s undying love and commitment to us as people who constantly betray and turn away from Him. How He is not like us and will never turn away from us.
When we discipline our children, it’s love that causes it and fuels it. It seems unfair to them, and at the time of correction we can come across to them as though we have ceased to love them. But they will learn in time that perspective. Not right away. It takes time. Correction, plus time soaked in consistent love teaches this. Not words, not “understanding” as we think but as Love teaches with time, correction, and faithfulness.
Love does not make us comfortable to be unloving, unfaithful, selfish, abusive, self-centered, revengful, and so on. Love makes us uncomfortable doing that, too our benefit, our good. But that brushes up against us as unloving and unkind much of the time. Hence why we must not lean on our understanding to follow God. The passages in Hosea you’ve been referring to are loving discipline passages. You must ask a question every time you read God’s Word. It’s not a question that seeks to make your understanding feel good. It is a question that asks the opposite. It is this:
“Lord, would You give me eyes to see, ears to hear,and a heart to understand what YOU are saying here. Give me, YOUR perspective, Your understanding?”
It’s more a request, a plea than a question as we understand questioning. But it is the best question anyone can ever ask of Him.”
The friend again, looked up into the sky. No birds were flying and honking, but the cloud that had been shielding the Sun from its full brightness was moving off to the west. The full light and heat of the Sun became a physical thing to the eyes and the body. Again his friend smiled. The smile seemed to say “thank you God”.
Again Toby was drawn to his friends words but also how he seemed to be part of them, it wasn’t just head knowledge, it was where he was moved and had his being.
“God, I want that! I want to know You like that. I want to be part of YOUR understanding, and not my own! I want to know how to receive YOUR love and so be able to love like that. I will continue to read Hosea, and ask or plead the question this friend has shown me. Thank you for bending down in this moment to teach me the Holy contrast of man verses You.”
The two friends continued to sit in silence, but having very real and intimate conversations with the God of Hosea. And it was good.
♡ Grace and Shalom in Yeshua the Messiah ♡
Ever wonder how King David could use the term “my righteousness” in the Psalms? Job did the same as well.
It’s been a common line of thinking in the church that noone can “own their righteousness”; using the Apostle Paul’s term “apart from God there is no righteousness” which I believe he quotes from King Davids Psalms as well. So what could this Psalms be talking about? And what does Job mean when he claims to have a righteousness of his own?
In my own studies I have found the following which has helped a great deal.
First of all there are two types of righteousness we are given by God.
● The righteousness of salvation; which comes from Yeshua alone by His works and His death and resurrection. This is not earned by us; nothing we do contributes to this righteousness. Even the grace we are given to accept and receive Yeshua comes from Adonai alone. This righteousness is what Paul is referring to; the ownership of this is God alone. We can stand firm in it but even to do that we must be given grace and mercy to do so by God. It is this righteousness alone that will place us before God on Judgement day and separate the goats from the sheep. Everyday our first conscious act is to bring ourselves under the protection and grace of the Salvation Yeshua provides. This enables us to move into the day with the righteousness that follows…
● The righteousness of separateness, holy living, following, obeying, submitting to all God’s instruction and teaching; the living acts of being set apart by His truth manifesting itself from within us causing the fruits of the Spirit to grow on our tree. It is, however, still the act of God that we are given the heart to obey, listen, and heed Him. By giving us access to Himself through Yeshua the Messiah with the power given by His Holy Spirit, our Counselor. So here still the origin of this righteousness still comes from Adonai. But we now become the very righteousness of God in the world we effect and live in; and thus the righteousness King David and Job refers to as their own. These acts of righteousness we get to take with us all the way to eternity! They shall never rot, decay, wither away, the treasures we store up! These will also be rewarded by Yahweh, on Judgement day.
The heart of the individual must be seeking only for God to get the glory. This is the Spirit of the Law – or more accurately defined – the Teachings of God that Yeshua’s coming and His walk lived out here on earth revealed and stood in contrast to expose the religious hypocrisy of what mankind had done with God’s law. Whenever something God designed gets directed to glorify anything other than Himself it becomes wickedness.
Another note that opened wide my perspective was how one defines – good and evil.
In Hebrew the Word – good – means functional. Meaning that whatever is being referred to as good operates under the design and purpose for which it was made by God.
The Word – evil – therefore means dysfuctional. Anything that gets put to use for anything other than the way it was designed and purposed by God according to His original intent.
The word good for as far back as hundreds of years before Yeshua was born and lived as a man; was morphed into this religious hypocritical feeling-based definition. Something that makes one feel good rather than actually being the good God designed it to be. For example: the act of obeying the 10 Commandments being called “good” when the heart of the person doing so was to make themselves feel good not simply because they loved the Instructor and wanted Him to be glorified through them. This is why Yeshua asked the “righteous man” why he called Yeshua good. And thereby explained that noone is good except God the Father.
It makes a huge difference to know how God intends the words He created to be used and perceived. Greek (or gentile) thinking has diluted so much of the exactness of how God expressed Himself, with clarity enough for a child. The more “heady” or intellectual one became in pursuit of knowledge of God rather than desire to know God Himself the less accurate this “knowledge” became.
Given all that is above in reflection and study. Now re-read the Psalms at the top. Light should fairly burst into our souls! Notice why David can ask God to judge him with confidence. The focus of all things in the words he is expressing is God. The trust within David is in God’s righteousness and judgement not his own. Yet he is able to see that the act of obeying and serving God in the designs that God gave with the act of living for Him (the Teachings/Law) gave him a firm ground to stand upon in defeating the enemy (God’s enemy, the devil and his servants). In fact the whole story of Job reflects this same “motif” if you will. It is wisdom to see that the enemies King David refers to in 90% of the Psalms he wrote are not human beings. (Though with study one can figure out which and where he does indeed refer to the human element of enemy). As we read the Psalms we must pay close attention to how the enemy is being referred to as David had also been instructed by God to love his enemies but hate the evil doer. Hence when Yeshua tells us to do the same there is no contradiction between the Word of God at the time Yeshua lived (The Old Testament) and His own Words which were the fulfillment of the old renewed in His person Himself. So much of what Yeshua said cannot be truly understood without having applied (as God intended) and studied the Holy Scriptures that were given by God before Yeshua was sent as a babe, thus fulfilling all God’s Word. The entire Old Testament and most of the New must be viewed via the Hebrew mind. Not the greek. God moved the very Hebrew of Hebrew Paul to translate and begin educating the Greek thinkers (gentiles) but Paul started by explaining the error of Greek thinking and gently showing (teaching) the Hebrew. It is a big debate but needlessly so as to the language God spoke to His people and even to His Creation at the beginning saying “Let there be Light!” Yet the fervent study of God’s Word eliminates this at the tower of Babel. Hebrew was the original language and it was at this point that all other languages emerged. Note also that the reverse “Tower of Babel” happened in Acts when everyone who received the Holy Spirit was able to understand everyone speaking in foreign languages. Hence they were all translated back to the original – Hebrew. God’s language. The evidence is overwhelming. Now see how the church is robbed by the enemy by this whole idea that we need not apply the Old Testament or understand the Hebraic roots for which we are all grafted into. Yeshua was not a Hebrew by happenstance, it is a neon sign as to where God intends to lead His people and how.
The ownership of all Righteousness is indeed Adonai. Yet we become His righteousness and are rewarded for the everyday acts of trust and obedience of living according to Gods design and teachings from the beginning. So we can say “God judge me according to Your grace for my righteousness” just as Job and David did, without misplaced arrogance but instead full righteousness granted us through the saving acts of God to communicate to His people the way they should go. I pray this excited you and stirs you to study deeper the God who is above all gods… and may His person be who we encounter at every turn! Driving deeper the sword of love and desire to please Him with every Word!
Grace and peace in Yeshua the Messiah
♢ Seven Things Detestable to The Lord ♢
There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to Him:
A lying tongue
Hands that shed innocent blood
A heart that devises wicked schemes
Feet that are quick to rush into evil
A false witness who pours out lies
And a man who sits up dissension among brothers
– Proverbs 6:16-19
♧ Seven Characteristics of Wisdom ♧
But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all:
Full of mercy and good fruit
– James 3:17
□ Seven Things the Lord Will Do For Israel □
I will gather you from all the countries…
I will bring you back into your own land,
I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean;
I will cleanse you from all your impurities…
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you;
I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
I will put My Spirit in you and move you to follow My decrees.
– Ezekiel 36: 24-27
☆ Seven Gifts ☆
We have different gifts, according to the grace given us.
If a man’s gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his trust.
If serving, let him serve;
If teaching, let him teach;
If encouraging, let him encourage;
If contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously;
If leadership, let him give diligently;
If mercy, let him do it cheerfully.
– Romans 12: 6-8
♡ Abraham’s Sevenfold Blessing ♡
I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you;
I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse;
And all the people’s on earth will be blessed through you.
– Genesis 12: 2-3
¤ Purified Seven Times ¤
Because of the oppression of the weak and the groaning of the needy, I will now arise, says the Lord. I will protect them from those who malign them.
And the words of the Lord are flawless, like silver in a furnace of clay, purified seven times.
– Psalms 12: 5-6
Grace and peace in Yeshua the Messiah
QUOTES ON CHRISTMAS
We have no superstitious regard for times and seasons. Certainly we do not believe in the present ecclesiastical arrangement called Christmas: first, because we do not believe in the mass at all, but abhor it, whether it be said or sung in Latin or in English; and, secondly, because we find no Scriptural warrant whatever for observing any day as the birthday of the Savior; and, consequently, its observance is a superstition, because not of divine authority. (Charles Spurgeon, Sermon on Dec. 24, 1871).
When it can be proved that the observance of Christmas, Whitsuntide, and other Popish festivals was ever instituted by a divine statute, we also will attend to them, but not till then. It is as much our duty to reject the traditions of men, as to observe the ordinances of the Lord. We ask concerning every rite and rubric, “Is this a law of the God of Jacob?” and if it be not clearly so, it is of no authority with us, who walk in Christian liberty. (from Charles Spurgeon’s Treasury of David on Psalm 81:4.)
For the last five to seven years God has brought so many hard truths around; placing them right in our (Sam, my husband and I’s) lap. Leaving us with a choice, believe and turn from what’s “always been”, or turn away from the gift He has just given in much correction and continue on as we always have. So many; and every one of them have challenged the way we were taught to believe and more importantly presented us extreme changes in our thoughts and actions. What you find here is one of them. There are links below: the first is a shorter version and far less precise than the second. I highly recommend the second though it is two hours long it digs the deepest and is uncontested in its accuracy. I, myself, have spent the last 72 hours digging around to “fact check” Jim Staley’s Truth or Traditions video. I no longer am content to watch a video or read an article and “take the word as truth” without checking into both the author and each crossroad of facts they present. While Pastor Staley had a few “marks” to be found within the media available for one to peruse via the Web, I found no solid validity to the claims – as in, solid foundational facts. Having experienced myself how when one becomes bold and begins to “shout fire in the house” or stand boldly for the Truth (which is a Person not a thing – Yeshua the Messiah – Jesus Christ) accusations without validity and attempts to discourage by marring ones “reputation” are expected. Yeshua, Himself, was dealt with thusly to the point of being called a “servant of satan”! But as I said, not being able to stand for Pastor Staley personally due to my recent introduction to him; I can stand by the Truth(s) he teaches and in so doing stand for the real Author and Revealer of all Truth (Adonai, Elohim, Yahweh, God the Father, Yeshua the Messiah, and the Holy Spirit – The One True God)
I truly believe that if we are learning from God we are in a constant state of learning things we didn’t know before and unlearning some things that we were taught that were not of Him – hence we are always growing deeper and deeper in our knowing God Himself and our relationship with Him becoming nothing short of miraculous and mind-blowing. Yet to say that it is easy would be the worst kind of deception! God is simple and direct but there is a reason Yeshua called us to die to ourselves using such extreme terminology – followers of Yeshua are not called to easy being defined as comfy, carefree, trouble free, never taxing. We are told to come to Him because His “yoke is easy and His burden light” But the word easy here is not how the typical human mind defines easy. It is the kind of ease that comes from the difference of doing a new thing and having someone with you who has done it all before, and can guide you through it; thus making it not as hard as if we were to go out all on our own, not having the benefits of someone being able to tell us “nope that way is a dead end, don’t turn here, it looks like it may be easier to go that way but trust me, I’ve been that way and it’s looks are deceiving, this way is better”. Almost every single picture that was painted about God in what I was taught from youth to my mid-thirties has been completely changed by God, Himself over the last 12 years! Not all, but 90%. Some of which is due to what I did with what I was taught some because the teaching was simply not the whole truth. No blame is indicated here, it’s just a fact. It has happened to everyone and will continue. Adonai will continue to make sure He, Himself makes sure those who truly want the Truth shall find it right from His own right hand. I pray that the information that anyone decides to dig on here, that they may be kept and protected by Elohim and His glory be revealed!
The quote by Spurgeon above was quite confounding to me! It was quoted in the second link below (Truth or Traditions) and took all of about two minutes to prove, sure enough Spurgeon said those very words and never did celebrate Christmas. I know that most the brother and sisters in Yeshua (Jesus) I know would be shocked to know that – as I was. We are called to study and unearth the truth, digging, testing and discerning at every turn.
God never said “read the Word, He has rather said study, search out, meditate, feed on, lean on and depend upon the Word. His Word is not meant to be read like the newspaper; it only has life changing power for those who live it. Yeshua said “if you love Me you’ll keep my commandments.” putting His Words in the proper context; the Commandments He was referring to was the Old Testament content. The New Testament was not available to anyone at the time Yeshua or even those who wrote it and received the letters written by the disciples and apostles. This would come many many years later. So every time Yeshua and any of the New Testament writers referred to the Word of God, Scripture, the Word of Truth they are referring to that which Yeshua fulfilled (Old Testament) and if one wanted to know Him and serve Him, they needed to read about Him from where He began and showed up in the life of mankind from the beginning. We are highly favored of God to have the Word so full of Life with both the Old and New Testaments we enjoy today. But to focus only on the New and eliminate in any degree the Old we can not know the God who wrote the entire thing, created everything and did everything for us. The Christian church today suffers most because it has stopped living the Word and keeping the instruction of God from the beginning. But also because we have become complacent about really knowing the Truth about everything we believe, everything we act on, everything that effects our integrity and more importantly reflects God’s!
The changes in Sam and I’s walk with God are “radical” as some say, dramatic and extreme for sure. Yet the more we conform to the Image of His Son the more we are told by His own Words we will stand out and the “flow” of most of those around us will be against us; not tracking with. The signs Yeshua gave to us that prove we are truly following Him are delineating, dividing, separating… standing out most often unpopularly. Not doing what everyone else does just because we were taught that it was the way God says to, or because it feels good and right to us to do so. We are to see for ourselves, straight from God Himself, the what, why, how, and Who of everything we do and say we believe.
Throughout all of history, those who thought they knew everything about God and followed Him have been challenged by Him to seek the truth, dig and see that what they thought was true was not. From the garden of eden to the present day. .. satan distorts the Truth. That’s his job, and he is perfect at it! As perfect at distortion as God is at its invention and clarification. There is no such thing as a follower who never falls prey and becomes deceived. Those who listened at the very feet of Jesus, being spoken to in plain direct speech still did not understand what He said and the very Words of God they “cut their teeth on” until after Yeshua had risen! And even then it took every breath they breathed on earth of taking what “they thought they knew” to the feet of Yeshua every day often still being corrected and thereby challenged to change the track they were traversing. How can we ever feel so assured that we can retire our shovels and just “go with the flow”? This is especially dangerous for those who claim to follow Him, we are individually accountable for what we say we believe and how we carry out those beliefs into our actions and practices. We can no more blame the church as we can our parents when we stand before Adonai,because He has promised that each of us will have had all we needed to find the Truth and apply it to our lives, backed by the very power of God because of Yeshua and His Work. In essence He has “installed” a “shovel app” into every single soul and much like our devices we’re so fond of, they can not be uninstalled unless you “root out” the device. In spiritual terms. .. unless we turn a complacent and blind eye to God, Himself. We are all called to be archeologists, digging, seeking and confirming the truth using only God’s Word both written and spoken directly to us as the bottom line for where we “settle”; i.e. how our lives, practices and behaviors take shape.
Here is an opportunity for you to dig. An opportunity to: do all you can to present yourself to God as someone worthy of His approval, as a worker with no need to be ashamed, because He deals straightforwardly with the Word of the Truth.” (2 Tim. 2:15) Many versions of the Scripture put it as study to show yourself approved. May His Word rule and reign in our hearts and be reflected in all we do.
Truth or Traditions:
Grace and peace in Yeshua the Messiah